Wednesday, 2 June 2010

Discussion Point – Re-Release, Re-Edits and Revised

I have been thinking about this for awhile and it took me a while to decide if I wanted to tackle this topic on here, but here goes. Since the beginning of this year I have seen more re-releases than I think I have seen for the entire year of 2009.

Personally I think re-releases are a good thing and a win-win situation all round, more so for readers. With the digital market there for the taking, author with older bodies of work are dusting them off and making them available to us.

I wont go further into the pros and the con’s of re-releases, it common sense really, where my topic is going today is more Re-Edits and Revised.

Re-Edits

In layman's terms this is really a very uncomplicated process, it is what it say. Editing a previous body of work. Whether its the word structure or just reformatting text, it all under the heading Re-edits. Nothing  of the original work is changed. (You are more than welcome to correct me if you have a more structured definition)

Revised

The basis story remains the same, but new scenes are either added or gutted from the original body of work. (You are more than welcome to correct me if you have a more structured definition)

 

A few weeks ago two books that I had read years ago and enjoyed in their original context went on promo as book to be re-leased. I was so pleased, firstly because a new generation of readers would have the chance of reading something that I had enjoyed years ago.

Secondly it was another move in favour of the digital publishing market – it’s another option out there for author with extensive back listed work to use to get their names and eventually their work out to new and even old readers alike.

The glitch in the ointment for me comes from the REVISED AND RE-EDITED material and  I didn’t get this feeling until I had physically bought one of the book. I genuinely thought I was ready for these two book. 

Shiloh Walker – No Longer Mine

I read this book when it original came out and it remains one of my favourite work by this author.  I was chuffed when I heard it was being re-release with revisions, I even did a post about it and even bought the thing, but five pages in and I could not go any further.

For no other reason than I did not want to tamper with perfection. Why, because this was how I felt about the original book, it was perfect as it was. Right off the bat I could see the difference, a new cover, new blurb – but I was too chicken to go beyond page five to explore what else was new.

Leontine from Leontine’s Book Realm did read the revised version and she said.

 NO LONGER MINE delivered a heart wrenching, yet beautiful griping tale where love received a second chance. Two real, utterly wounded and flawed people had a difficult road to follow to get reunited again as lovers. This is a story that is a diamond in the rough in regards to the incredible potential Shiloh Walker has for storytelling.

I still am not taking that chance to read it – I am good with how I remember these people – and I want to remember it as Leontine said as a diamond in the rough..

Original Version

Revised Version

What was Nikki supposed to do? The man she loved years ago shows up in the place she made her home, hundreds of miles from where they met, reminding her of the love they had shared and lost. Nikki doesn't think she can cope with having to look into Wade's eyes and see the love there. All she wants to do is be left alone to protect what is left of her heart. But Wade doesn't seem to want to take no for an answer.

One woman, one man, and a love that won’t let either of them go.

Born on the wrong side of the tracks and dealt a fair share of hardship, Nikki Kline never gives up a fight. Even when her reason to keep going is ripped from her, Nikki tries desperately to hang on. But when the man who broke Nikki’s heart comes back into her life she doesn’t know how much she can take. Especially since that man seems determined to win back her damaged heart.

Wade Lightfoot is a man who knows he’s made more mistakes than most. As much as he would like to repair the damage he’s done to those he loves, Wade also knows there is no going back. But when he sets out to put things right the last thing he’s prepared to find out is that he had a son. A son he’ll never get the chance to meet.

When the truth is out and all the old wounds are bared, it seems impossible that Nikki and Wade will find their way back to each other. But true love is an undeniable force that even past hurts can’t destroy.

This book has been previously published and has been revised from its original release.

Maya Banks – Colters’ Woman

There are exception to every rule and Maya Banks – Colters’ Woman is one such. When I saw this was being re-release a grin appeared on my face, if you have read this book you know about this book – if you love it,you just love it like myself and if you hate it – there are more than enough readers out there to join that bandwagon.

I am under no illusion about the issues that this book has – but that is why I love it. It’s predictable, it’s unrealistic and there are some questionable sex scenes in this book. I don't care – I love it.

The fact that not only was this book been re-released, re-edited and new material added but more books were being added to make it a series, and so in some ways I was caught between a rock and a hard place. I had to read it because in essence it would be the first book in a series.

I really regretted reading it…

Why, because the fantastical things that I love about this book was gutted and this book just felt sanitized to me. New readers you obviously wont see the difference – but it just felt like something was missing.

I immediately rushed out and got the second book Colters’ Lady – and by page 11, it began, the fantastical, the too impractical and all the things that made me love the original Colters’ Woman book.

Original Version

Revised Version

Adam, Ethan and Ryan aren’t looking for women. They’re looking for a woman. One woman to share their lives and their beds. They don’t want a casual romp in the hay, they want the woman who will complete them and they’re losing hope of finding her. That is until Adam finds Holly lying in the snow just yards from their cabin. He knows she’s different the minute he holds her in his arms. But before Adam gets his hopes up, he knows he has to gauge his brothers reactions. Soon its evident that she’s the one. There are a few problems, however convincing her she belongs with them and keeping her safe from the man who wants her dead. Warning, this title contains the following: explicit sex, graphic language, ménage a quatre, violence.

Holly Bardwell is running from her past mistakes. Straight into the arms of the Colter brothers.

Colters’ Legacy, Book 1

Adam, Ethan and Ryan aren’t looking for women. They’re looking for a woman. One woman they know will share their lives and their beds. They’re losing hope they’ll find her, that is until Adam discovers Holly lying in the snow just yards from their cabin.
Adam knows she’s the one the minute he holds her in his arms, and as soon as his brothers see her, they know it too. The only problem is convincing Holly of that fact—and protecting her from the danger of her past.

This book has been re-edited and revised. Includes an expanded ending and a new, never-before published short story sequel.

Those are my issues with re-edited and revised books..

  • What are your views on re-released book. Whether you have read it before or you are new to the re-released and revised material?
  • Is it actually worth it for an authors to revise books or should it remain as it was with only re-edits done?
  • If you have read a revised body of work before – Did you feel let down like me or has it only made the book better in your opinion?

18 Speak To Me:

Tam on 2 June 2010 at 14:49 said...

The only revised book I bought and read was Madelein Urban and Abigail Roux's The One that Got Away. I was quite pleased with the changes. (I was always worried about poor Trace's cat left alone in that apartment for weeks.) and the additions just kind of smoothed it out and made it more realistic. So it worked for me.

I think the target audience for revised editions is not the readers who've read it before. As you said, new readers wouldn't know it's different, they are searching out a whole new audience. They do risk alienating older fans though (not in age LOL) if they change it too much as it sounds like Coulters' Woman was. I like it when they add in little details, like the cat issue I mentioned above or you always wondered how they got the coal in the basement and now there is an additional scene making it clear. Those are good things, but I think if you change it too much you do risk turning off fans.

I suppose publishers take some kind of calculated risk, that the new fans will outnumber the older alienated fans who buy the book and are disappointed.

Lily on 2 June 2010 at 14:56 said...

The only book I've bought again after it was redone was The Stand by Stephen King. I loved the original and loved the new one with hundreds of added pages. It's probably my favorite book.

Except for this exception my feeling is if I've already read it, why buy it again? So many other books out there that I haven't already read that I could be spending my money on.

But I guess there are many others who feel differently otherwise books wouldn't be redone. If I haven't read the original yet I'll buy the new one.

Dana on 2 June 2010 at 17:12 said...

It's probably weird to say, but I'm so glad that the re-released version of Colter's Woman isn't actually something I need to run out and buy. Like you, what I enjoyed about the book was the fact that it was so ridiculous but great fun anyway. A white washed version would just not cut it for me.

I've read a few re-releases, most often with Christine Warren during her switch from ebook to physical book, and I rarely see anything that's been changed enough to be worth purchasing again. I'm more repurchasing to have a consistent look to my series than anything else. Lately I've been having the problem with Shelly Laurenston, because I bought her books when they were all ebooks and as she re-releases them, often in anthology with new material, I sometimes feel like I'm being jipped- I already bought this book. Why am I being forced to buy it again when all I want is the next book in the series?

Chris on 2 June 2010 at 18:24 said...

I think I'll just make sure I keep commenting after Tam does, so I can just write "What Tam said." :)

The One That Got Away by Urban & Roux is the only revised book I can think of at the moment, and I liked the additions. Good to know that the kitty wasn't starving!!

Erotic Horizon on 2 June 2010 at 18:51 said...

@Tam.
I was always worried about poor Trace's cat left alone in that apartment for weeks

Good to know where your interest was in that book...

They do risk alienating older fans though.

Definately - I didn't go out not to like it, it was just knowing that scene was mising made a difference..

Adding new scenes probably would work better for me..

if they change it too much as it sounds like Coulters' Woman was

It was only one scene - but the original book got alot of flack for it - so I guess there had to be that risk..

For Author/publisher - This upsurge of revised book is most certainly a calculated risk - I am sure there will be loads of people (previous readers)who will like the new version..

E.H>

Erotic Horizon on 2 June 2010 at 18:53 said...

@Lily

I loved the original and loved the new one with hundreds of added pages.

I would probably not moan if it was only added bits - but the ltitle bit that was removed made a difference..

if I've already read it, why buy it again?

Words to live by...

E.H>

Erotic Horizon on 2 June 2010 at 18:55 said...

@Dana
what I enjoyed about the book was the fact that it was so ridiculous but great fun anyway.

Word!!!!!

Why am I being forced to buy it again when all I want is the next book in the series?

That's one of the reason I am a little cheesed off - Just give me the second book and not muck about with the original.. It actually only irritated me in the long run

E.H>

Erotic Horizon on 2 June 2010 at 19:05 said...

@Chris.

I keep commenting after Tam does, so I can just write "What Tam said."


What I said to Tam... LOL

Good to know that the kitty wasn't starving!!

Another kitty groupie..

E.H>

Jenna Byrnes on 2 June 2010 at 20:18 said...

It's an interesting situation for authors when our books are suddenly released back into our hands for one reason or another. Obviously, we want them out there for the public to find, but what to do with an already-released title? I'm sure that's why so many of the re-releases are coming out with expanded scenes, new short story sequels, etc. Give the reader a reason to buy it, even if they've read it before.

When my first publisher closed I had seven or eight titles orphaned and really wanted to get them back out there. Total E-Bound allowed me to republish them, but they wanted spicier versions so I had to rework most of the titles pretty heavily. I'm really glad I did, it's so much more pleasant having the books available somewhere rather than sitting, gathering virtual dust, on my hard drive!

That's my story, anyway. Great topic EH!

Tracy on 2 June 2010 at 20:51 said...

I don't personally care to read a revised re-released book. I have recently and was disappointed in the deleted scenes as well as the editing. The story was still great but still...

I think for me if I liked it the first time and I'm going to re-read it then I want to read my original version so that it's the same. If the book was bad the first time why would I want to read it again? lol

ErotRomReader (Janna) on 2 June 2010 at 21:59 said...

When a book that I bought earlier is later revised and rereleased I can't help but feel a little ripped off. Did I buy an unfinished or not so well edited book then?
I can understand why publisher do rereleases though and I can also sympathize with Jenna Byrnes' story about books gathering dust and getting a second chance this way.

Eyre on 2 June 2010 at 22:43 said...

If a book that I've already read is revised, I tend to ignore the revision if it was a book that I adored the first time around. I'm always scared that something will have been added or taken away ruin my love of the story. I'm one of those folks who enjoyed the original Colter's Woman. I won't be reading the revision.

Tam on 2 June 2010 at 23:13 said...

Good to know where your interest was in that book...

LOL No really, I ADORED that story. You can cut the sexual tension with a knife. But I'm stickler for the little details of life in a contemporary. When people NEVER eat, or they don't drive anywhere they just appear, or they mention a cat at some point and then there is no mention ever again. What was the point? I don't the minutae of every little thing, but if you have a pet make that part of the story, or if you say the guy works out everyday, mention it in passing once in a while. Makes it more real and in this case the cat issue added a little humour.

Erotic Horizon on 2 June 2010 at 23:54 said...

@Jenna

**Waves wildly at you ***

Hope all is well....

I'm sure that's why so many of the re-releases are coming out with expanded scenes, new short story sequels, etc

The first thing that came to mind was the fact that it was the scene that took the most flack that was get gutted from revised work... there will most certainly be positive to that, but Tam mentioned it might just alienate the older readers...

I think I am more a add more scenes to the re-released version, rather than amend..

it's so much more pleasant having the books available somewhere rather than sitting, gathering virtual dust, on my hard drive!

I can't fault that logic as having back-listed work available is a premium that not alot of author have at the moment..

I just have to be careful of the re-releases that I choose to invest in the future.

E.H>

Erotic Horizon on 2 June 2010 at 23:57 said...

@Tracy

If the book was bad the first time why would I want to read it again?


Probably if I didn't enjoy both books the first time - I wouldn't have bothered to make the effort...

Now you make me wonder if I would appreciated a re-released and revised book that I didn't like before in it's original form..

hhhh

E.H>

Erotic Horizon on 3 June 2010 at 09:30 said...

@Janna

Did I buy an unfinished or not so well edited book then?

No I never got that idea myself - I was just more intrigued to see what new could the author add to the story..

As in Tam and Chris case - the addition only made the book better for them..

With me - I just felt cheat of something I knew was there.....

Revised work probably will always have some for it and some against it..

E.H>

Erotic Horizon on 3 June 2010 at 09:32 said...

@Eyre

I'm always scared that something will have been added or taken away ruin my love of the story

I didn't think I would be ... but I hear you, words to remember for the future...

E.H>

Blodeuedd on 3 June 2010 at 19:02 said...

I guess I do not mind as long as it isn't an excuse to make more money. I have a books that has been "fixed" because Magician by Raymond E Feist was released but back then the publisher didn't want it so big. So later when he was a bigger star he got to go back and put in some scenes that he thought explained things more.